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	<title>Comments on: Are 4 Verbs Enough</title>
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	<description>pulling the rug</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.redmountainsw.com/wordpress/archives/are-4-verbs-enough#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, PATCH would also be useful for that.

Yah, I read Werner's interview.  He's a brilliant guy, but he just doesn't understand the Web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, PATCH would also be useful for that.</p>
<p>Yah, I read Werner&#8217;s interview.  He&#8217;s a brilliant guy, but he just doesn&#8217;t understand the Web.</p>
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		<title>By: Chui</title>
		<link>http://www.redmountainsw.com/wordpress/archives/are-4-verbs-enough#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Chui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 22:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. PUT with ranges will require normalized XML.

It would have been nice to be able to do chunked HTTP PUT,  similar to multipart mime post, but to different URLs. Then we can express the swap in one transaction.

Mark, did you read the ACM Queue interview with Amazon CTO who said the REST camp was just being vocal, .... people just wanted things to work, and not fuss over what goes over the wire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. PUT with ranges will require normalized XML.</p>
<p>It would have been nice to be able to do chunked HTTP PUT,  similar to multipart mime post, but to different URLs. Then we can express the swap in one transaction.</p>
<p>Mark, did you read the ACM Queue interview with Amazon CTO who said the REST camp was just being vocal, &#8230;. people just wanted things to work, and not fuss over what goes over the wire?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.redmountainsw.com/wordpress/archives/are-4-verbs-enough#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 08:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PUT with ranges?  Or break the resource up into chunks and PUT to a chunk - basically doing ranges one level up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUT with ranges?  Or break the resource up into chunks and PUT to a chunk - basically doing ranges one level up.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.redmountainsw.com/wordpress/archives/are-4-verbs-enough#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, there was fancy XML in the POSTed data but it has been lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, there was fancy XML in the POSTed data but it has been lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.redmountainsw.com/wordpress/archives/are-4-verbs-enough#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that if you're using a good representation for your resources then it'd be trivial to do this operation with a POST, which I believe would be the correct verb here since it's an update.

Assume we have:

1. ...
2. ...
3. http://localhost/some/thing
4. http://localhost/some/other/thing
5. ...
6. ...

And then update by just POSTing the data that's needs changing:

POST


http://localhost/some/thing
http://localhost/some/other/thing


That seems like the cleanest way to me and it scales to arbitrarily large lists.  I generally think of POST as an update operation and usually as a partial one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that if you&#8217;re using a good representation for your resources then it&#8217;d be trivial to do this operation with a POST, which I believe would be the correct verb here since it&#8217;s an update.</p>
<p>Assume we have:</p>
<p>1. &#8230;<br />
2. &#8230;<br />
3. <a href="http://localhost/some/thing" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/some/thing</a><br />
4. <a href="http://localhost/some/other/thing" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/some/other/thing</a><br />
5. &#8230;<br />
6. &#8230;</p>
<p>And then update by just POSTing the data that&#8217;s needs changing:</p>
<p>POST</p>
<p><a href="http://localhost/some/thing" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/some/thing</a><br />
<a href="http://localhost/some/other/thing" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/some/other/thing</a></p>
<p>That seems like the cleanest way to me and it scales to arbitrarily large lists.  I generally think of POST as an update operation and usually as a partial one at that.</p>
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